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    Action Rotary Review.YE

    This is my review of the Action Rotary, I won't go into cost or History of the Machine, you can read it yourself on www.noironmachines.com. As usual, I am not associated with the company, in any way. This is my impartial view based on my experience, and may not reflect your ability to get the most out of the Machine...Phew...

    Whats in the Box.. You get a Solid, heavyweight Framed maxon A-max motor. Functionality looks like it was more important than Frame design,(nothing wrong with that),as the motor and frame are well balanced. To be honest, the frame is easily cleaned and has been well machined, and has nice clean detailing (if that matters). You get both RCA and Clippy connections...You are advised to tape over the RCA if using the Clippy in case of Shorting out AKA Wires from the Clippy hit the RCA Connection.You also get 3 Pivots/Plugs and some small o-rings-I will go into this later.

    How does it Work..Well you have a choice of 3 Pivots/Plugs..These are Orange-Soft hit, Grey Medium hit and Yellow Hard hit..You NEED to place a small o-ring (provided) onto the nipple of the Pivot/Plug before you place your standard grommet, the o-ring just acts as a spacer/washer so your needle bar goes down the centre of the tube..TBH a piece of tissue paper would suffice.

    How does it Perform..Don't expect the "Give" factors of a Stigma/Nedz/Fly/Hawk etc etc etc..In my opinion, what we have is a trad Direct Drive on steroids..The Action Rotary has the best qualities of a Direct Drive, it is hard, fast and punchy.The Linear motion is perfect, the machine is heavy (same weight as a small coil machine) but the balance is spot on. Little or no vibration. I did feel some "Give" factor in changing over the Pivots/Plugs..I wouldn't call it give, a better word would be "Dampening", the Pivots/Plugs are more like Small shock absorbers, and they do work well.

    What can it do..Probably everything to be honest.Line/Saturation/Blending/B&G..Please don't think of this as your first Rotary, well it could be if you love Direct Drive Machines...It will line (I will always prefer Coils forthis task),but, with a 5rl-Yellow Pivot/Plug it was a Joy, Shading and most Colour work will be carried out with the Grey Pivot/Plug, soft Shading and Other work will be carried out using the Orange Pivot/Plug.

    Summary..Denis (
    www.noironmachines.com) has suggested what Volts to use with certain Pivots/Plugs, as usual I feel it is up to the individual to work this out for themselves, I ain't gonna say 8v's with the Yellow Pivot/Plug and someone drills a wrist with a tight 3RL....However, it is an easy machine to get along with..I will be doing a solid Black infill tomorrow, I will use the "recommended" settings and get back with how I get on.

    My Opinion..This crosses the divide Between the Direct Drives (NEOTAT/Rotaryworks etc) and the Give System Machines Fly/Whip etc etc...As long as you start slow, and treat it like something you never tried before, this could be a Daily Driver..

    Give me a day or two and I will fire up some more info regarding the Action Rotary...Would I buy another one, Fuk Yeah....

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    Thanks for sharing, you have done a very nice job of describing this machine. I look forward to hearing more. I can't tell yet if this would be a machine for me or not, but it sounds very well thought out.

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    I agree Owls, until you have held, worked with and utilized a machine to it's full potential , then you won't know if it's the machine fro you, LOL...Too many people make snap judgements based on their own skill levels, that doesn't help the machine, the builder or other prospective buyers...Watch this space more to follow...P

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    Great review mate, looking forward to hearing more.
    Play nice now people or your naughty posts will go in the Shit Box!

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    That was an awesome review
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    Pass the popcorn around, more to follow...

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    HA..HA... THANX MAN, U MAKE AWESOME REVIEW OF MY MACHINE, BETTER THAN ME.....THANX A LOT

    is pretty much exactly what u say, of course anyone can like or not, and must to be like this, have many good ROTARY now in the market to choose for any kind of style works, i try to done my best

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    Final Review...

    I had a Black infill session today, 2.0hrs of solid Black...This was a "tribal" design, and mainly chest and upper arm, areas that can be painful on the client, and difficult for the artist.

    I used both a 13RS and a 15Mag, I ran the machine at between 7 and 7.3 v's, and only used the Orange-Soft Pivot/Plug..I have to say the machine was faultless, almost one pass with both needle groupings, client said it was slightly less painfull than using Coils,but, the infill went it twice as fast, and I ain't shitting you.I upped the V's from 7 to 7.3 when switching to the mag, I also reduced my needle throw to about 2mm,and off I went, again no problem. I had no need to change the plug, to be honest, as I said before, the difference between all 3 Pivots/Plugs appears to be minimal, I am sure all users will have different opinions on usage...I would suggest you up yer hand speed when doing Color work at the start, this is a solid hard hitting machine, and will be loved by Direct Drive users, and be mastered by the peeps who prefer a bit of Give.

    I only have a few issues, none concern the actual running of the Action Rotary machine. The addition of a Needle runner/clip (See Neotat) would be simple, and do away with rubber bands,because, the bands are pulled really tight if you wrap from the needle bar to the back-end of the machine, I found one band does the job fine. My other issue, (I am awaiting an answer from Denis) is the availability of spare Pivots/Plugs, and the cost of each, if you were to lose/damage the Pivots/Plugs the machine would be unusable. I believe most of the" New" Rotary Give machine Builders offer a comprehensive spares catalogue, it is imperative that No Iron Machines do the same.


    All in all in a very , very solid performer, my fav Rotary to date was the Neotat, the Action Rotary just feels like it's the Neotats Big Brother on Steroids..Lining 8 outta 10, Shading/Blending 10 outta 10, Saturation/Packing 11 outta 10, yep thats an 11....Defo a Machine that will perform all the duties of Color work including B&G, and it will also Line.


    Please note all of the above is my findings, and should be used for reference only. Put simply, I don't want anyone trying to Sue my Ass....So buy according to your ability, is this Machine the Magic Bullet to make you an Artist ,shit no, none of them are. Will this machine open your horizons and increase your options, very possibly,Yes.....P.


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    COOL MAN, THANX FOR YOUR POSITIVE OPINION

    i use the ROTARY with YEALLOW HARD PIVOT for all, just change my hand speed-technique about LINER-SHADING-COLOR, but like u say is about how the people like, i gonna done soon also a RIGID PIVOT, with a very hard PLASTIC-RUBBER, for the people that like RIGID ROTARY,
    i reply your maesage about the PIVOT, yes i have and gonna send to uno problem, absicly any things the people need about my machines they just send me a mail and of couse i have all the SPARE PARTS,

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    Very nice review indeed! Thanks for all the great info on this machine.

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