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    Do you have a photo of the set up with the o-rings? just for reference.

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    tooo much hassssssleeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss!!! althoe they are lovely machines!!



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    thanks guys for all the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    Do you have a photo of the set up with the o-rings? just for reference.
    I'll set it up tomorrow and take some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slicksteel View Post
    I think they would work but you would prob have to clip on closer to the needle end as directdrives have to have some side motion play as to not bind up.
    I'm not so sure they'd work on my direct drive. When I look at the needle, at the very top of the tube, there is a LOT of back and forth motion. It appears to just miss the sides of the tube opening. I feel like it would put a lot of strain on the needlebar, as it may force it to bend back and forth as it now doesn't have the room inside the tube to 'play'. I would think that could add strain to the motor? If not just the motor, but the pin in the bearing that the needlebar is attached to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    Do you have a photo of the set up with the o-rings? just for reference.
    Here's some pics.............................



    In the top photo you can see how severely you bend the bar ,in the other pictures you see the machine set up with Orings.You have to keep fiddling until the needle group can go back and forth with no upward or sideward waver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alie K View Post
    I'm not so sure they'd work on my direct drive. When I look at the needle, at the very top of the tube, there is a LOT of back and forth motion. It appears to just miss the sides of the tube opening. I feel like it would put a lot of strain on the needlebar, as it may force it to bend back and forth as it now doesn't have the room inside the tube to 'play'. I would think that could add strain to the motor? If not just the motor, but the pin in the bearing that the needlebar is attached to?
    I'm not sure Alie; that sure sounds viable but, looking at the photos Peter just posted, there is one hell of a lot of tension on his needle bar and a metal tube should also present a less friction than a disposable so, who knows, it might even be a case of swings and roundabouts depending on what set up people are using?

    I think Phil's idea of a will it work video is what's needed to solve this now?
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    Will order some tonight. should really make a video with trying it with a few different machines , and tubes also need to make a will it autoclave video, ha!

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    I would be concerned that needle runners on a direct drive would lessen the positive effects...and the reason I use direct drives in the first place.
    what I like is the "bite" I get from the needle oscillating in contrast to the "rubbing" effect I get with other rotaries. -granted, I use my swiss knockoff for b/g...but for color or lines, that oscillation really helps.
    could the needle be spitting because the needle isn't centered front to back properly?
    I really don't remember if I have gotten any spitting on my direct drive rotaries in a while, and I use really light tension on my elastics.

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    That Roy machine was made for dotwork - were you let the needle jig around to git a random stiple effect.Was not desighned for anything else.
    U use a oversize round tip with a extra supertight 3 or a single



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