another new one on facebook

[thesmokingmirror]

hopefully its a good machine, cant wait for a review!

[slicksteel]

hey cashdaddy hit them up and see if it got a delrin slider or is metal on metal I am thinking the slider is under the metal and out the hole were it is the clip

[asA]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=3&permPage=1
Slider is metal for sure

[fatcashdaddy]

here is a copy of an email I got from zoltan:

Hello Thom,

the expected wait time is about 6-8 weeks because all pieces made by order.

The total cost of 15 machines is 180 x 15 = 2700 Euros , is about 3570 USD . it means unit price is 237,5 Usd.

The Shipping cost with DHL or FEDEX : about 185 USD with tracking code and includes Insurance for whole value of package.

So , the GRAND TOTAL of 15 machines is : 3570+185 USD= 3755 USD


You know, only the first time we need 6-8 weeks for shipping , because we are working now on keep stock in hand the machines in future , when the first 100 will done and saled out ,than we will can send ASAP our items in the next time. For now we have a very excited time of begining

Take care Thom, i wish the best to You

zoltán


I think I'm going to order 1 machine to try it out first. If it is a quality machine then we can go ahead with a group order although with shipping charges added to the wholesale price, and the company being in hungary, i think our european friends on the forum would be better served to put a group buy together themselves to save on shipping...

[gangstajay]

here is a copy of an email I got from zoltan:

Hello Thom,

the expected wait time is about 6-8 weeks because all pieces made by order.

The total cost of 15 machines is 180 x 15 = 2700 Euros , is about 3570 USD . it means unit price is 237,5 Usd.

The Shipping cost with DHL or FEDEX : about 185 USD with tracking code and includes Insurance for whole value of package.

So , the GRAND TOTAL of 15 machines is : 3570+185 USD= 3755 USD


You know, only the first time we need 6-8 weeks for shipping , because we are working now on keep stock in hand the machines in future , when the first 100 will done and saled out ,than we will can send ASAP our items in the next time. For now we have a very excited time of begining

Take care Thom, i wish the best to You

zoltán


I think I'm going to order 1 machine to try it out first. If it is a quality machine then we can go ahead with a group order although with shipping charges added to the wholesale price, and the company being in hungary, i think our european friends on the forum would be better served to put a group buy together themselves to save on shipping...

I think that would be safe..it may have some bugs in it still.

[slicksteel]

ok so i asked about the slider if it was metal or metal with telflon/delrin : this was the response which was done in a timely manner:
"

hello Michael.

for now you can see the prototype on our website but for now we change some parts to full-metal .

We also change the mechanic system to other kind of rotary system what is working with excentric-bearings .

Also news : double stronge dc motor having in H2 .

The New one is similar to system of swiss rotary or dragonfly tattoo machine. the new pictures of new model will available soon on website.

the machines all made by order, it means you can get limited edition, what is built to you . will signed and numbered , only 100 pieces will be saled out. "

[slicksteel]

So I would say this one is a prototype in which the tooling to make it was made-maybe it was not well received so that is the drastic price drop and soon to be design change as they are going to use a crank & bearing setup on the next one after some trial and error with this one.It does look to be machined well thoe-so it might be a cool machine -would like to talk to some one who has it about the metal slide setup & how that effects the performance-noise etc. It makes me wonder why the design change so soon?

[elbo]

did anyone buy one in the end????

[slicksteel]

They informed me that the slide was noisy and no good and they are making another like a swiss style-that would be the one you can get right now and it will go into production soon and they will post pics.I would only buy when the tested one comes out as the one right now is most likely a untested new prototype.

[vsprotoss]

without naming companies, what's up with SELLING prototypes at full pop to artists and then acknowledging they came out with an unfinished product then to ask for more money for the next so called real production version? that's some BS$S!!!!