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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines slicksteel's Avatar
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    WBI -"WHITE BOY IRONS" The first run of forty are being called the Mach5.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    It took me over two years, lots of prototyping and a fight with Maxon over jacking up the prices every month to come up with the MotorBolt system and lock system. So it's up to you to copy or come up with your own thing. Like your tag line says "design matters". Design something new

    In the picture below all the footswitches were designed and built by me back in 2009 except one..can anyone tell me which one isn't mine?..I know they all look remarkably similiar but there's at least ONE person on this forum that knows exactly which one isn't mine (oh, and the one that isn't mine was selling for 2-1/2 times what I sell mine for. so I guess its ok to copy other peoples stuff IF your going to overcharge for it)
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    The red one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsDen View Post
    The red one.
    I was about to say.
    Keep on, Keepin on!
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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines Nedz's Avatar
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    I could say the same thing I believe Stigma did it before you on the Fly machine so who is copying who.

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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines fkirons's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedz View Post
    I could say the same thing I believe Stigma did it before you on the Fly machine so who is copying who.
    My old model of the Spektra 2 year old model had the twist release motor which it was the beginning of this system. I don't know how old the Fly is nor I think both machines have anything in common design wise.
    The Spektra Halo was the refinement of the first concept where we completely eliminated the threads for a 1/4 turn lock system.

    I appreciate that you like my MotorBolt system.
    I'm up for a constructive dialog, like the feedback you ask me to give you when I spoke to you in person at Tattoo Jam, we spoke to you about the noise the machine was making, mention the RPMs of the motor you were using back then, the wire shaft that you were using and the use of softer springs. remember me?

    Like I said it's up to your ethics to copy it, evolve or do whatever you want with the concept.
    The machine is going under patenting process as we speak. The MotorBolt System, the Give and Cylindrical Slider system are some of the patents I am filing.

    I know the machine will be copied but at least with a patent I can stop american/ european sellers to carry the knock offs on their site.
    So far I spent 18k in the patenting process and I'm not even done.
    I've learn the hard way with FK Irons.

    Don't be mad because I'm trying to protect my work
    I wish you success with your machine, I'm sure there is room for everyone to bring something new to the table without falling into straight copycats.
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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines Nedz's Avatar
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    Yes I remember you Gaston and you gave me some really useful advice which I put into practice and the next batch of machines. All I was trying to point out that its ok to take an idea and then evolve it into something else the thing that I really dont like is when someone just copies a machine and changes the name thinking no one will know.

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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines fkirons's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedz View Post
    Yes I remember you Gaston and you gave me some really useful advice which I put into practice and the next batch of machines. All I was trying to point out that its ok to take an idea and then evolve it into something else the thing that I really dont like is when someone just copies a machine and changes the name thinking no one will know.
    Exactly. Are you doing Tattoo Jam this year again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    Exactly. Are you doing Tattoo Jam this year again?
    You guys can settle your argument like gentlemen, over cold fermented beverages.

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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines fkirons's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    You guys can settle your argument like gentlemen, over cold fermented beverages.
    I wasn't arguing, but a beer doesn't sound bad at all!
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