Swashdrive whip on ebay.

[Sage Oz]

not only that but can we knock off the knock off shit u are all hypocrites just so u know stop acting so self righteous and pointing fingers
IF YOU ARE A TATTOO ARTIST YOU ARE GUILTY AND IF YOU THINK YOU ARENT TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PORTFOLIOS AND LOOK AT THE OTHER MACHINES U HAVE THEY ARE ALL KNOCK OFFS OF SOMETHING THAT CAME BEFORE IT

Jimmy why so pissed? Nobody is pointing fingers at anybody here....
The topic is about knockoff whips, not those that like them or hate them...

We've all bought Chinese crap, wether tattoo machines or supplies or shit at the 99cent store(I wonder if they have 99pence stores in the UK?), and those items are usually in the end not worth the time or money we've wasted on them...

And a knockoff is not a new version of something else, a new BMW is not a knockoff of a Ford model T, it is an evolution of the design including new innovations and stylings. A knockoff is if someone made an exact(at first appearance) replica using the same dimensions(if not a mold taken from the original and without any royalties to the original creator) out of much inferior materials to lower standards and then he writes 'BMW' and in much much smaller letters 'style' and then cheaply undercuts the price and makes it openly available it to those that don't value the quality of the original and expects it to drive the same. And a knockoff manufacturer will not be there to help when something breaks or doesn't work, which it will, whilst the originals usually come with good Customer Service, an often under appreciated commodity.

A $600 machine can easily pay for itself in hours, and even if you don't like it, and decide to sell it for let's say $400(which is a low price for a near new machine, but it'll do for the sake of argument) your loss is only $200, which was paid for by your customer in the process of trying it, which leads me to the conclusion...

The true cost to try a quality machine is only the time you spent trying it out.

Because of the difference in quality of a fake machine to a real machine, you are much more likely to be unhappy with the fake sooner or later when the cheap quality shows it's ugly face.... And then to attribute those perspectives towards the original which you haven't even tried. If my first rotary was the knockoff swashdrive, instead of the real version, which it luckily was(gen6), I may never have converted because of the sour taste in my mouth over a fake! Then the fake sits there not being used much, and it shouldn't, an abomination, alienated by the nicer machines that do there job well and deserve their praise, until it is sold to some cheap scratcher(encouraging him to preform his evil) to get rid of it in disgust.

Not very fair to myself, or the creator of the real machine, or my clients.

I also don't have money to blow(my income is less than previously mentioned in the thread) but I buy higher end machines because of the lasting quality and performance in them at the risk of loss of resale value, because they are more likely to be the perfect tool for me. And if they aren't the fit for my style or abilities they will serve someone else very well. I also am decreasing the odds of loss by doing proper research on machines, reading the reviews here(partially why this forum exists is it not?) and correlating the data to find the best choice. I just happily bought a new HM SantaMaria(350€) from Roman, an awesome guy with awesome customer service. And a true artist, too(I'd much rather see him spending that money than some knockoff thief manufacturer that doesn't even have a tattoo much less do them well). It's in the post at the moment but I know that it's very high quality will shine as soon as I open the box. And if it just doesn't vibe with me (unlikely, but possible) and I end up selling or trading it, I really doubt that I'll ever regret the decision or be able to recoup my investment. So why should I ever waste my money on a bunch of crappy knockoffs that will work like shit and die quickly? Why shouldn't I be investing heavily in quality tools, just as all professionals in any trade does?A master mechanic uses Mack or similarly expensive tools(a full case is tens of thousands of dollars), is he insane?