thanks for info,thats pretty much how i have been setting my machines having the needles out on full stroke and udjusting my tube for needle depth.the vivace was the only one i wasnt able to,but i had it figured.but now that i know about the spring i'm gonna try it.thanks.

Quote Originally Posted by slicksteel View Post
Yep same spring ,Smoother & less volts and when you have the needles out on a full stroke you set the tube tip to the actual needle want to be out-seems weird at first because were used to coils but after you use it that way awhile, it is much easier to see the true stoke of the machine and actually set it to were you want it.