I guess what im looking for is a machine that can do it all. Line, shade, and pack color. I havent done any research on the Gen 7 yet. But i have seen the whip in person. Feels cheep in my hand. Never saw the brass / aluminum one tho. As for the Kubin cranker, im gonna send him a message on Facebook and find out some more about it. As of now i think im leaning towards the bizarre V2. My friend uses one and he loves it. But he also isent a member here and doesent what els is available.