hey Mike, my name is Matt. (studio on Kapahulu, but not the 3 street shops on Kapahulu). i just got on dis forum, and just started using a DAN KUBIN machine. so far i like it alot. had the swashdrive before, but couldnt get used to it so i traded it. maybe i just wasnt ready for it. the guy that advised me to get the Dan Kubin is SAGE OZ on here. he built many coil machines for me before. then he converted to all rotary. try ask him about any kind of machine. he building his own rotary too now.