Cheyenne tube and a Neo Vivace

[studio88]

I just used this same setup today except with the bishop. I also used Hawk cartridges, not T-Tech. The Bishop motor got really hot. I found that to push the hawk cartridges takes a lot more force than pushing the T-Tech cartridges, so I have to run the Bishop at higher volts. I needed 9 volts just to get the machine to start with the Hawk cartridges, whereas with T-Tech I only need about 7.5 Volts. I suspect this is why the machine was heating up so badly. And I have used the Bishop several times with normal tube/needle setup and it never got hot.

Don't know if the Vivace would also have this problem of getting hot, but if so I suggest using T-Tech instead of Hawk cartridges.

[The Limey]

When I spoke to Ray, about using T-tech/Hawk cartridges he recommended switching from the superlube grease supplied to the oil, worth a try if you are getting heat build up or having to flick the slider to start your machine.

[hellraiser6662]

At 150 pounds for the grip in England then the price of hawk needles at 30 a box of 10. The machines heating u sounds like a expensive failure waiting to happen. Unless hawk needles are about to come down in price or t-tech gets a seller in England I dont see the point.

[The Limey]

Depends which grip you buy, the non adjustable one is only $34.99 + Shipping from Painful Pleasures

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At 150 pounds for the grip in England then the price of hawk needles at 30 a box of 10. The machines heating u sounds like a expensive failure waiting to happen. Unless hawk needles are about to come down in price or t-tech gets a seller in England I dont see the point.

[hellraiser6662]

God England is always so behind with stuff it does my head in haha dts wont be getting these in for another 10 years hahahah or any body else to that matter on are green isle. And if they do we'll be ripped off by the price

[The Limey]

Well, look what I just found in the UK...

God England is always so behind with stuff it does my head in haha dts wont be getting these in for another 10 years hahahah or any body else to that matter on are green isle. And if they do we'll be ripped off by the price

[hellraiser6662]

Yep ive just ordered it from killerink hahaha and only 22 pounds bloody hell im stunned

[The Limey]

LOL Ditto!

[daibead]

Killer Ink are on the ball with most new products like the hawk grips etc compared to DTS. Picked up a few of the fixed grips a couple of weeks ago.

[e_Bangs]

Is that grip wrapped by something looks bigger than the 25mm