I own 3 centris they are my everyday workhorses, I've been using Mike's machines since the beginning I had the plastic version when everyone was busting his balls about asking for presale money with no history, then owned 2 of his first 5 machines with the third following close by, I went though allot of growing pains with Mike and it was worth every bit of it these machines are the shit and I only wish I could afford a couple of green ones.....anyone in the greater Phila area is welcome to come by my shop and check one out for yourself.... Northern Lights Tattoo Wilm de