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so I picked this up off e-bay the seller is CJ harper and is a member of this site. I was really impressed with this machine for 60.00$ if you look close it has a larger motor then the stealth and runs very very smooth and quite it is made of a abs plastic and has a metal tube vise which is a swing gate type so it will hold all size of tubes.. I used it today and tan a 9L and did some stars ,,then used it to run a 9mag and did some color on a jeff bartells leo symbol. was very happy with how the machine runs..smoother then the stealth and no chatter