Thanks again, Boaz the hair is basically done by not doing the hair if that makes sense? just concentrate on the values in between the hairs then a clean up with some putty (or blu tack) and a paper mate tuff stuff eraser stick. an electric eraser is also used to find the very lightest spots, hope that helps bud. Devs i havent got a clue who he is mate, random search on the net dug him up no doubt?