Thunder compared to 3.5 Vivace/3.5 Bishop/Mini Cranker

[slicksteel]

It sounds like ya have a great setup all ready-maybe buy a 4.2 cartridge for the vivace and swap it..most of the linework i have seen with the hawk looks fairly thin fineline-I should have mine today and have the others and will give ya an update on what i think of it. You also could buy the t-tech or hawk grips for all of those machines as they all run great with them and would almost be the same feel, at a very low price compared to buying a hawk.

Also you could get a Directdrive and pair with the ttech/hawk grip for the same feel as a hawk.