Dan Kubin Mini Crankers

[GregM]

there all beautiful but old nick and beelzebub are eye candy

I agree!they are great looking

[Mozzer337]

Just a quick question. Do you guys use the vertical band to help with "punch" on the downstroke? The only downside I find with this is the needle is always out when the pedal in depressed, so when using small caps the danger of banging the needles is more likely?

[skinmech]

Just a quick question. Do you guys use the vertical band to help with "punch" on the downstroke? The only downside I find with this is the needle is always out when the pedal in depressed, so when using small caps the danger of banging the needles is more likely?

I use the band more as a stabiliser than to increase the force of the downstroke. I don't think it has any bearing on the downstroke, and even without the vertical band your needle can still hang out as there is no "return spring" system. I use the needle hanging out when stopped to my advantage, spesh when I don't want to load my tube tip, I just use the needle tip like a quill pen-for very small details and script.....TBH Works just as well without the vertical band....

[Mozzer337]

I use the band more as a stabiliser than to increase the force of the downstroke. I don't think it has any bearing on the downstroke, and even without the vertical band your needle can still hang out as there is no "return spring" system. I use the needle hanging out when stopped to my advantage, spesh when I don't want to load my tube tip, I just use the needle tip like a quill pen-for very small details and script.....TBH Works just as well without the vertical band....

Cheers for the reply Paul. I know theres no return, but I get wary of the needle hang when dipping, so I tend to give the pedal a small tap to try and get most of it back in. I hang it out looooong ya see. Just got a new one thats set at 5 mil with most of the stroke hung out. I was thinking of trying to connect a spring under the abar to push against the motor housing, to encourage the return, but I dont want to strain the motor by introducing any force against the function.

[peter clements]

Cheers for the reply Paul. I know theres no return, but I get wary of the needle hang when dipping, so I tend to give the pedal a small tap to try and get most of it back in. I hang it out looooong ya see. Just got a new one thats set at 5 mil with most of the stroke hung out. I was thinking of trying to connect a spring under the abar to push against the motor housing, to encourage the return, but I dont want to strain the motor by introducing any force against the function.

Don't obsess over return springs, the theory is "would you drive a car with the hand brake on". I know quite a few Rotary users who when using machines like DFs, remove the return springs , apparantly the machines' performance then improves. Please, don't risk damaging your Cranker.

[Mozzer337]

Don't obsess over return springs, the theory is "would you drive a car with the hand brake on". I know quite a few Rotary users who when using machines like DFs, remove the return springs , apparantly the machines' performance then improves. Please, don't risk damaging your Cranker.

Thanks for the advice Peter. Thats made my mind up. If its not broke, dont fix it I suppose. I love the machine as it is, so the return spring idea is getting binned.