valid point from hellraiser there,,,, and seeing the chinese have already made the halo/bizzare cross now (basically front of a v2, arse the sdame as the motor bolt from the halo) for me the prodigy is gunna have a hard time, the beast yeah it has similarities to others but this debate is gunna go on and on, theres gunna be things that appear the same on the ever growing range of rotaries. i like the needle grip on the beast tho,, no gromit, no opening the eye up, maybe a band or runner, but this would have benefited from a tensioner on this one i reckon. gaston defo hit the pot of gold with the detachable motor it seems!!