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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    SOOOOO, I will get used to it then ???????? Is that what your saying

    So I shouldnt over open it and then try and re-grip it tight ? , , , , I should open it to the correct size so it just about slips on, and leave it like that ?????.

    Yep, yer band will hold it tight....as said above some needle loops fit straight on, some need opened slightly...P

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    dermagrapics makes bars that fit on-make sure you use one that have a complete round eyelet on top -some some taper in at a angle as the bend around-those tend to not run as smooth and wear the bearing area uneven. also dont put the eye on to tight were you have to force it on are you will pull the bearing off try to get the bar free.
    take a couple of bars at practice till you get the right size it should not be sloppy but with a very little pressure push go and be free once its on with a very small space. you can use the stem end or a small pair of pliers like stated.



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    directDRIVE are you going to make any with the other style cam but custom to your machines?



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    You can just use the back stem on your tube to open the needle bar up some and any grocery store sells the little rubber bands for hair. You can get 1000 for a couple dollars.

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    I use disposable tubes and grips at one shop and stainless at another. And I also use different needles at each place. Need mi own shop with mi own supplies that I want to use realy.

    Thanks for all the advice folks, Its realy helped loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    SOOOOO, I will get used to it then ???????? Is that what your saying

    So I shouldnt over open it and then try and re-grip it tight ? , , , , I should open it to the correct size so it just about slips on, and leave it like that ?????.
    You will get used to it, absolutely - Its no more fiddly than squishing in a grommet, and certainly easier than anally folding tiny paper towel squares (oh how I miss that)

    Absolutely do not over open it, and then try to retighten it on the bearing, you WILL crush the bearing, and you'll never get it tight enough to stop it from rattling around due to the spring-back in the steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by slicksteel View Post
    directDRIVE are you going to make any with the other style cam but custom to your machines?
    Short answer... I have toyed with the idea, but for now I'm sticking with what I know - I'll PM you the long answer

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    pm me the same answer directDRIVE .....pleas.

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    The standard type of long bladed scissors has just the right amount of width (thickness) for what you are looking for with no guessing . Stick the blade (one) of the scissors in the eyelet of the needle till it stops , slightly pry up and out toward the opening and pull the blade through the opening this will open the eyelet just enough to do what you need to do dont worrie to much about the size of the opening because you are just trying to get the blade to just fit through the eyelet . It will be the size you need but do this only once as to not open it to far this is good for the round eyelet needle bars the tapered ones like stated above dont need it but arent good for the bearings . As for the comment on not needing to bend the eyelet i use standard sized nips on my machines and i use some of the best needles of several brands in the industry and i have to bend every needle (except tapered) i use on every machine i have ! So to bend or not to bend ....it a matter of preference , style , and need ! Have a nice day !!!
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