ok well i opened up my vivace and them saying it cannot be removed is sorta bulklshit ,its got a little set screw on the cam wheels just like any other rotary it comes off no problem, does anyone own both a vivace and a bishop capo and is willing to check for me if they are the same cam wheels , i emailed neotat with no response ray hasnt been on here in months either so no point in messaging him, if they arte gonna give me this story about not being able to remove it and say i have to order a entire motor that i dont even need id rather not.. i know they look the same on the website id just really like to have someone with both machines check it out it will only take 2 seconds and i think will help a few users get the cams they need more easily... whats with neotats site also for such a popular machine there site and online store is really lacking...