ok no problem-I do not have any type of deal-I paid for my machines. On this last post I was just trying to share information about the cams and thought I did not say anything bad about others. I own several neotats, vivaces, Og bishops and owned several capos and now two impacts. I like all these machines except the capos which i did not care for to much but have seen nice work done by them.So when I got the impacts and they ran so good, I was head over heels for them as they were everything I wanted in a slide rotary and wanted to show others that were wondering about the quailty etc.