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    As soon as he dogged Neo (who is in that forum) that was the beginning of the end for me. If it was as face to face I may have told him off, but I am very aware that my profile is for work more than personal, and my clients can see my posts.

    One person not liking his machine turned into many not liking how he does what he does. The ONLY reason I post here was this is a semi private forum that isn't open to the general public.

    In this industry we need a bit of an ego, no one wants to get tattooed by someone that "can probably do that", you NEED to have some confidence, but there's a line, and I think he crossed it.

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    1st off, thank you Nivek for posting that so we could see what went down. I think he could have handled it smoother, but his WORK was being called "ugly"(what if you posted a piece on here & someone didn't offer critique(because they don't really understand form & function) & just straight up called it UGLY?) You would defend your work right? Then you state a fact that you know enough about other builds to be able to mend their shortcomings, then while defending your own knowledge & work someone else comes out of nowhere w/ a "Todd (Pecker)" (intentionally misspelled to add insult) go fuck yourself". Todd hadn't said anything like that to Randy(& possibly not anything even TO Randy @ that time. We don't know we can't see this since it's beginning). I don't know about YOU, but I don't let people talk to me like that for free. Also I think Todd is a bit up on Randy & a majority of others when it comes to his machines & from what I understand most of the other slide machines out there. How do you like all my parenthesis? Hahaha!
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    I don't appreciate the fact that he felt he had the right to openly bash the guy that started the liner slide machine... You know the one everyone copied? How bout someone's customers come into my shop and I start bashing how shitty their work is to try and sway their business how would that make you feel? What would you think of me if I did that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by artoftatt2 View Post
    I don't appreciate the fact that he felt he had the right to openly bash the guy that started the liner slide machine... You know the one everyone copied? How bout someone's customers come into my shop and I start bashing how shitty their work is to try and sway their business how would that make you feel? What would you think of me if I did that?
    I would think you were a shithead. I understand what you are saying. Todd could have left out names & it would have gone a lot smoother.
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    We are all human guys, and it obviously struck a nerve when his machines were bashed just as it struck a nerve with Art when Neo was bashed. We are human, it's natural emotional reaction and so anyone for Beers?
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    This is why I focus on the machine it self ,rather then the service or the personality of the guy who builds them .... Like with the swashdrives.. Some say the service is good, some say they,re bad , and they say they're only human... It doesn't matter to me. Good service is great but it doesn't mean that they are the nicest guys on the planet,or I will get the same treatment every time ... Like with my own customers ... Shit happens and we're all only human.
    Expectation is only a setup for disappointment ... We all make a fool of our selfs once in a Wylie . I know I do all the time.. Ha ha
    And ultimately all I want is those great little machines that these guys make and MY success .. And if your cool with me I'm cool with you.

    Live long and prosper ....and peace to all.

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    (yes)(to)(beer)

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    Haha good man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artoftatt2 View Post
    I don't appreciate the fact that he felt he had the right to openly bash the guy that started the liner slide machine... You know the one everyone copied? How bout someone's customers come into my shop and I start bashing how shitty their work is to try and sway their business how would that make you feel? What would you think of me if I did that?
    One builder openly bashing another is dirty pool.

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    all that aside he didnt say neotats were shit he was defending his machines by stating that he fixes and improves neo tats. And i no he is telling the truth about that. the truth is the truth. also i remember when he came on this forum he gave major props to ray webb for paving the way for the impact

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