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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    Nonetheless, Inkmachines proved with the dragonfly that their product and engineering is top notch.
    Do I think it's worth $700+ yes. That machine can make you 100's or 1000's of $1000 tattoos.
    But would a $350 dan kubin mini cranker not be as good and work aswell?... Would a $450 halo not be as good or work aswell?... How far do you go?... I could make a machine that runs great and sell it for $1200 doesnt mean its 3 times better than a halo.. Just sayin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffstattoos View Post
    But would a $350 dan kubin mini cranker not be as good and work aswell?... Would a $450 halo not be as good or work aswell?... How far do you go?... I could make a machine that runs great and sell it for $1200 doesnt mean its 3 times better than a halo.. Just sayin...
    There is a market for everything and everyone. Some people would prefer spend the extra cash and tattoo with certain machines, regardless.
    There are affordable machines that are excellent and expensive machines that are excellent. There are also cheap machines that are garbage and expensive machine that are an even bigger garbage.

    I think InkMachines price their machines according to what makes sense to them after analyzing their investment and manufacturing costs. To manufacture that machine, is not cheap, especially in europe and America. Can it be priced cheaper? I'm sure it can, can it be priced higher, of course it can.

    Also, if you buy that machine here you are also paying for import taxes. Probably in Europe they are cheaper. The motor that they used is also manufactured in europe.
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    Well said Gaston...I'm actually on the fence right now about buying. I put down the rotaries and went back to coils last year. I'm now finding the need to return to them. My hand(s) are about baked (carpal tunnel & arthritis has done it's damage). Not that getting the weight off will solve my problems, but it helps.

    So my thoughts are these...Dragonflies were my first rotaries. Absolutely loved them for black & grey...lining? This was pre-stingray..so I never got away from my coils for lining. I ended up selling them to jump on the Centri band wagon...huge mistake, but whatever, you live and you learn. Got rid of the Centri(s) and went with the Spektra. Not going to drop another "review" as its all been said before, but as nice as the machines were I still never found that sweet spot for lining. Yeah, I know...many of you will say its there, but for me I just never found it.

    Dragonflies? Amazing machines for black & grey...perfect for me. I also enjoyed doing color...but the lining wasn't there for me once again. Would the Stingray change this? Cons would be that they are out of country, so if they go down its a pain...

    Spektra? Again, amazing machines...loved packing color with them. Black & grey wasn't as I had hoped thought, but then I never dropped down to the 2.5mm to give it a shot and I've told that's key? Lining was there, but still not like my coils, which was the reason I parted with them. The service I got/get from FK Irons has just been flat out killer...COULD NOT ASK FOR MORE! About the only thing Gaston didn't do was mail me a stripper with the machine, their customer service is all that.

    Decisions Decisions....do I drop like $1,200 on the Dragon & Stingray? Or pop the $1,600 down for 3 Spectras? Just thinking as I write here....

    Coils are not in my future though unless I go with an FK. Which may very well be an option for their weight. I've been watching the progression of the Stingray though, and hearing good things. Decisions decisions...
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    Well I'm sure if it's based on the other dragonfly then, when they post the parts list just buy the bits to convert your old dragonfly easy and much cheaper, also work ive seen is only from the sponsored artists, I dont know anyone whos bought one yet. As other machines are on the cards from other makers I think inkmachines have a dodo on their hands, unless it makes you tattoo like nikko haha

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    John Wayne I believe just got his hands on one. I don't know if he is a sponsored artist but he is pretty good about talking openly about what he likes and why on facebook.

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    ...like I said 2.6-3.5 with a 2mm suspension, fuck yeah I can finally get that 0.6mm stroke, with give, I've always wanted for laying in exactly zero pigment! And with this sweet new body style how can I resist here's a blank check. pffff! I will stick with my Halos, Stigmas, and Inkjectas, and continue working on my 2 machines. I have 4 halos for a reason, they work amazing, they are well thought out down to the detail, made in the USA, and the price is very fair. The stingray is none of these things assuming it has the same underpowered engine as the DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickWrath View Post
    ...like I said 2.6-3.5 with a 2mm suspension, fuck yeah I can finally get that 0.6mm stroke, with give, I've always wanted for laying in exactly zero pigment! And with this sweet new body style how can I resist here's a blank check. pffff! I will stick with my Halos, Stigmas, and Inkjectas, and continue working on my 2 machines. I have 4 halos for a reason, they work amazing, they are well thought out down to the detail, made in the USA, and the price is very fair. The stingray is none of these things assuming it has the same underpowered engine as the DF.
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    im just thinkin there is no way to justify that kind of bread. sure i could make the money back on a piece or two but the same can be said for many machine with half the price tag. jus out of curiosity how is ink machines customer care and the warranty policy. im thinkin for tthat pric tage the warranty on motor should be longer than a year

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    hearing that price actually makes me want to get rid of my dragonflies and not use their machines

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesoner79 View Post
    hearing that price actually makes me want to get rid of my dragonflies and not use their machines
    Yeah they arent even tattoo artists... I liked the 1st dragonfly and dont have anything against them but think this is crazy when people like dan kubin and dale @rotaryworks hand build there machines on a small scale with high costs and still do there machines at 1/3 the cost!.. It seems these people to not give to our industry just take!..

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