bishop or vivace? or hold out for the beast?

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Just to clarify I am not referring to Chinese machines more like say rotary works to something of this sort. 200-600 dollar range. If there both linear with no give how different could they be. Besides finish and look?

i have to agree in a way with this. i have had neos, bishop, impact, and i always seem to come back to my rotary works. I think some people just like the different looks of certain machines, and some people like the least amount of weight, noise and vibration possible so go for something that fits their likes. I honestly dont see much difference in the performance of the machines i metioned they lay ink really simalirly. only difference is how it fits in my hand. , and personal preference...lol..

* the only difference that is really noticeable performance wise is when i use a longer stroke, 4+ mm, or a short stroke, 2.5.. The RW are 3.5 but seem to pack and line like a machine with a larger stroke...