For the record I prefer no give. I just find that if you are doing something that covers different skin tensions and contours I end up messing around with the give continuously. Where as with a direct drive, no give machine, I know I have the capability to drive the pigment home with no messing around. Saying that though, im recently going back to coils for lining. Just feel the punch of a coil for single pass, bold lines cant be beat. BTW im no veteran, this just my general opinion.