i thought it was amazing at first too , well despite the fact the wire to the rca was broken upon arrival and swashes answer to me was buy a soldering iron, so i can homemade repair my new 550 dollar machine.... anyways fixed that, wasnt impressed with the size.. it sounds like a coil on higher volts. i also had customers complaining about slow heals and lines falling out. all of witch i havent had a problem with in years.... touched up the bad heals with my mc2 plus some new very solid color areas and got calls saying wow fastest heal ever.. i guess my main problems were the size the noise the lack of customer support. and then ontop of it getting the bad heals. it just got too many options for me id say. when u can load up a no give machine and just plug and play thats quieter smaller and that isnt givin u bad feedback from the customers. just had no place in my drawer..... not saying it isnt a great machine im sure it works awesome for some people. lots actually. i would just still buy a whip over another gen 8 anyday i expected too much i guess and was let down...