Workhorse Irons do something pretty Special in the Coil Machine World....They are an "eclectic mix" of some of the "most famous/best builders"....So you have some fantastic builds from individuals, mixed with "co-op" designs....However, not when it comes to Rotaries...The first one was shocking, not as bad as the Centri, but pretty close....The second one was a revisit, again, it was as if this was "forced" on WHI, like a penance not a pleasure....I will probs never run another WHI Rotary, the people at WHI know what they are brilliant at...So they don't need me to tell them...Only saying....