Ok let's face it, there will always be design spin offs and improvements. As far as hawk and ttech, ttech saw a market and a need to a hawk alternative that was cheaper and they met that demand. I just could not bring myself to buy hawk carts for that price, especially when I don't have a hawk machine. I like the looks and feel of the ttech grips and they serve their purpose very well. I don't see hawk advertising to all other machine users about converting to hawk grips and carts.

We have bishops, neotats, impacts, and many more slider style machines, every one had to have been inspired by something or someone! If hawk has the quality and the superior design than their customers will stay loyal to the product. If not than ttech is the alternative. I don't think that anyone should have a monopoly on an idea, otherwise we end up with $5 gas prices and a product that can't be regulated by competitors. Competition is what drives the economy.