I came to this site because its a rotary forum and NOT a tattoo critique forum. I have my opinions on tattoo's (various styles and such) but thats not why I joined a "rotary" forum. look for the thread on needle runners and you'll see quite few critiques and not all of them good. search my thread "anyone familiar with this machine" and you'll see exactly why I came to this site. I came here to learn about rotary tattoo machines and the people who use,make, fix and /or sell them, not to critique others tattoo work..Its also a great resource for other tattoo products I may have not otherwise heard of. I learned of the T-tech system through this site (which I love) and needle runners (which I hate). I've also been exposed to rotary machines from various builders and some machines posted from other members that I may not have heard of. I've gotten reviews of machines that I may or may not have wanted to spend my hard earned money on. there are some who search the internet and ebay and post of new products they find... all of this,to me, is what makes this forum valuable....