New disposable "Fantom" tubes for cartridge system

[rjdadio]

Indiana is amazing....friendly competition is ALWAYS a good thing.

[rjdadio]

having had the opportunity to work with Arizona state and federal law makers......most of them are idiots. I was an elected person for two terms......they like to call themselves "officials." Anyway....less regulation is better than over regulation and and more important is education. A person who has done alot to educate Indiana officials is Max's dad....I can't remember his first name......____ Egy. See, I'm an idiot too....lol.
Believe he is in Terre Haute, so not sure if that is the same county you are in.

[cagelavey]

yeah its Maxwell Egys father, hes the one who helped get it legal in fort wayne, that's awesome you know that. fort wayne isn't close to terra haute but maxs dad Michael is the same kat. Max worked with my homie Ryan Hadley in fort wayne, they are insanely largely responsible for the positive way that tattoos are viewed in the fort. ryan did an amazing piece of Jessica alba on my back, with one of your neos, lol.

[cagelavey]

this thread is what I live for. so many great minds in one place, bringing nefarious intent to light, lol. being able to set down and share ideas and knowledge for the betterment of this craft. god I really need to take this test for AP World History so I can get all this shit out of my head, lmao.

[rjdadio]

see....not as dumb as I look..lol. History is an important subject indeed! This is how we make things better without falling for the same mistakes as in the past.
We as an industry need to keep companies like MT Derm in check, or there won't be an industry to work with...

[rjdadio]

The MT Derm machine that they have been marketing to the PMU industry is the Nouveau Contour. It is a vertical pen device that is very expensive to own. The company put forth this "digital" bullshit, and that the only way to apply PMU was with a digital machine.......the digital was the stupid power supply! it was just a rotary pen device. Back in 2004 the Contour cost around $6000.00 and at last pricing it varied between $2500.00 and $7000.00. They worked to make the system "blonde" proof by having color coded settings on the power supply and colorcoded cartridges with number counts for needles. The system was so dumbed down that most of the new PMU techs did not really understand what was going on with the needle configurations......ok, I need to do eyebrows I load the blue 5 and push the program setting for blue 5.....and dip it in pigment and go. Yep, that crazy. We had a terrible time educating the techs on what the tattoo needles were all about, and to this day some do not understand. It is a shame that the techs were sold on the belief that the only way to get good equipment was to spend lots of money.....LOTS of money. If it costs more....it must be better.

Some know that I got my start in 2004 with the PMU biz. I made a machine that did not need proprietary needles and where they did not have to take out a morgage to pay for the tool. And in doing that, I converted a number of Nouveau people and cost MT Derm a bit of money......so they have made it their mission to put me down in the tattoo biz. I have found it very funny how they work.....oh well...I will keep on doing what I do!

[cagelavey]

drink one for me, lol

[fkirons]

I feel a bit nauseated regarding this subject.
Especially because I am in america and love this country and industry.
We cannot allow anyone to control our industry. Especially by people that have nothing to do with it
to begin with.
Messed up that they try to pass laws to grow their wallets! That is sickening.


PS: I wonder if anyone owns a patent on a direct drive.

[punisher]

I just want to say this is a fascinating post. I feel the people of this forum would. Be loyal to a USA brand. Can't say much for the rest of the industry with sow much Chinese manufactured junk being shoved down the industries throat. Unless your reading these post I don't know a single needle or disposable tube that is advertised that it is Chinese. I only use tatsoul for supplies anymore but even then I couldn't tell any one where there needle or tubes are made. I would assume china. So I know this is going to be no easy task but I for one support it and hope it is a success. Certainly will promote it in my circle of artist friends.
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[cagelavey]

yeah, completely excited to see a disposable tube and cart being produced on this continent. (nothing against Europe, Australia, etc.) it'll just be nice to know where all of the prodcts and tools we use come from and whos pocket our hard earned money is going to. with the help of forums like this one it'll also be easier to make purchases over seas also. because of the readiment of information that this site provides.