I agree the site shoudlnt be a promotion place for the knock offs sure, and my comment about how much they cost etc was really to point out that the money involved on my behalf is not about buying to sell etc, I wasnt sure where to put the thread and I'd be happy if it was moved behind closed doors so to speak hence my opening sentence on the thread.

I want to show folk on here that it is a genuine 'buyer beware' issue. From a distance they may look like the real thing but when you get a good close up of the machine rather than the Auction site pics people get to satisfy that curiousity of how its built/Build quality etc without having to part with the dollars! Its also interesting for those builders who have been ripped to see closer up what effort if any has gone into the knock offs but dont as of yet have 1 to hand to comment further. If they are looking in I'll happily email em pics from whatever angle they want to see it.