so the guys from eternal were at the show and had a few of the new rotary's that I believe welker had a hand in making it ... I actually was speaking with welker about this forum so lets see if he shows up..very nice fella... the new rotary is stainless its real clean looking almost got tattooed with it, but the one johnny quintana was using was having problems..abbey from low rider used his and said it was great... it has a dampening knob on top like the stigmas.i wish I would have took a picture its a lil on the high end for price 550.00