im not interested for penlike machines.i was looking for a dd with adjustable sytroke as i rely on hand pressure and speed instead on give these days.my options were very limited so my eye caught the kwatron equalizer with the 10w motor.i purchased one since i couldnt find any feedback or info for these machines.i seriusly doubt that it has a 10w motor.(my thunder feels much stronger and i really hate that.i wanted a machine that has ,more or similar torque and hit of the damn thunder but could use standart needles also.)it also has terrible balance and it feels like its pulling back on the hand because of the weight and structure of the machine.need to say that during a 4 hour tattoo it snaped at least 7 or 8 rubberbands.so if you asked me i wouldnt recommend this machene.and for those who support its not the machine its the artist or there is no need to buy high end machines i can do my job with a knock off , as i ve read in a threat today, you are sooo wrong.