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Alll I got to say is the cream always rises to the top. The Stigmas were all the hype last year but I see most of us here on the forum do not prefer them. I spent 700 on my Fly and 600 on the Hyper...

Its a nice machine and the syle looks right on with what I would want in my tool box. I saw one for sale on craigslist here in the IE for 600. A bit steep id say, I would drop 300-400 no problem but...