I've us my flites v2 and my dragonfly ss for lining. I've learnt along time ago is you'll never find that perfect machine and you have to learn each machine how to use it. So I picked the flites and stuck with them. Though I do get pangs to buy other machines but in my heart I know it be like all the same a dispointment or nothing special. I did have a whip mark 1 and gen 7 but the motor went and I got a replacement but it never felt the same after that so I got rid of both when I had a machine spring clean out.