neo tat & rotary works

[gangstajay]

So I was able to work 2 full days with the neo and the RW did some nice size tattoos and small ones.. used the RW with 9 mag and used the neo with 15 mag both machine stand neck to neck.. I am not sure what the stoke length is the RW but I love it..just right for my hand speed I did color and blk and grey did some ribs and neck tattoos.. the only problem I had was being careful to turn the power back down when switching back and fourth..lol the RW runs on about 3-4 volts and I was running the neo at about 12 to 13 with the big mag.. I am going to purchase the neo tat long stroke.

well this is my 2 cent on 2 great machines..thumbs up to ray and dale... I wish the swash drive builder would get on the site

[Alie K]

D'oh! I hate when I do that! I'd love to get a new power supply with separate presets... I'm going to compare the critical and the new eikon and see what one I like better...

[gangstajay]

on power supplys.. I have the old 200 eikon but was afraid to use it with any of my rotarys..I have one of those lab ones.. what is you opion ?

[Administrator]

The original 200 I know a lot of artists who use it with Rotary Machines. Many of the Eikon knock offs will not work and the newer 200 and I think 250 will not. Ben from Eikon has an account on here, I should email him and ask him to give a list of the current power supplies they sell that will and will not run a rotary. I know when I last spoke to him he said most of the power supplies that will not just need a firmware upgrade that can be done by Eikon if you send it back to them. The newest one runs them for sure, I saw both NeoTat Machines and Stigma Machines run off of them at the Edmonton Tattoo convention.

If you have an Eikon Knockoff and it wont run a rotary you are pretty much SOL unless you buy the little converter box that dragonfly sells. In all seriousness the cost of that box plus shipping and the exchange makes it not worth it and you are probably better off getting another power supply be it Lab, Digital, or Analog and just selling the other to your apprentice

[gangstajay]

I have an original eikon.. got it when it 1st hit the market... I used it for a while but it seemed like the lab power supply i have ran the gen 6 better,but that could have been me being over careful. that lab one I have came from unimax had it before the eikon.. might try getting a ferit and using it.

[Administrator]

As far as I know the power supply will only shut down if its not compatible. If the readout reads a 99% duty cycle some of the power supplies will shut down. 99% duty cycle means it thinks the relay cycle on a coil machine is not working and its going to short out the machine so it cuts the power.

The lab power supply might run the swash better because of the high amount of amperage that the supply will pump out vs some of the older digital power supplies that where developed with relay/coil machines in mind.

[gangstajay]

I guess we should have done this in the power supply thread...lol I went thru the threads I picked up a ferit today and hooked up my eikon, also i think when I got my gen 6 I wasnt sure how much voltage to run them at so it seemed like I was running them high. the neo and the RW run great on the eikon.. I may save my pennies and get the new eikon, the gen 6 run good also now that I am more use to them

[slicksteel]

stick with the lab they produce lower ripple and current noise.

[The Limey]

stick with the lab they produce lower ripple and current noise.

Yep and if you drop a few extra bucks you can get them with multiple output channels you'd just need a little box to switch between outputs that way you wouldn't get the voltage worries when switching machines.

[gangstajay]

on the swash webb site the 200 is listed as a power supply to use, hey dale and ray what do you suggest for you machine?