New disposable "Fantom" tubes for cartridge system

[sammyfrog75]

I'm not American but can we(in Australia) use them as a trial too? Obviously I'd pay the asking price...... Also when are the 2 new machines coming out roughly?
And I'd like to add that we too(Australian and possibly the rest of the world) agree with you guys about the Chinese crap that comes out....
We too are feeling frustrated about getting cheap knock off and can't really prove where it's been made(I got 2 bishops from our Australian supplier and when i opened the machines to change the cams I read on the motors that they are Maxon sample only motors.....
Now not saying it's not OK to run but it feels like(unless it's in my mind) than they dont run like the other 2 bishops I got sent by the original bishop company.......
Kudos to you to make a stand and believe me I'd rather buy the extra money to get quality stuff from you guys than China.....

[cagelavey]

I know, that's why I mentioned Europe and Australia. you guys have some very inventive stuff coming from Australia and Europe, obviously with some of the best machines on the market. I was just stating, that it is so much more convenient to see more products come from our country. also, there is a huge problem in America with outsourcing to other countries. so the more we can have made here the better it is for us as individuals and our economy. im sure you guys have to deal with customs a lot and it sucks, long wait times for products, etc.

[rjdadio]

I think we need to get an American company making our small motors for us! I would invest in that! How about a kickstarter? Anyone game?

[fkirons]

I think we need to get an American company making our small motors for us! I would invest in that! How about a kickstarter? Anyone game?

That would be great an amazing initiative.
I always wondered why there is not a single solid american motor manufacturer.

One thing for sure is that almost the majority of the components needed to make a motor comes from china.
I'm down to be part of the solution just let me know what can be done and how to get it going.

[cagelavey]

that would be awesome, an American made motor to rival maxon! "gaston" i cant wait to get my halo, im feeling like a crack head waiting to recop. im fiending, lol. im bout to drive from Indiana to Miami!

[No Iron Machines]

hey, but the good point of the CHEYENNE is the possibility of adjust the needles depth on way from the grip, with DISPOSABLE FIX GRIP that is not possible, rite ???

i try before some of the T-TECH NEEDLES WITH STEEL GRIP, GOOD QUALITY, but why nobody else don't start produce some serious NEEDLES CARTRIDGE ????

THE CHEYENNE are so expencive, and the T'TECH are the only other solution, and many times are SOLD OUT some needles configuration becouse the biggest request from artists, of course,

i think can be good some other CARTRIDGE option , or the problem is the PATENT from CHEYENNE, or what ????

GREETS AT ALLA, COMPLIMENTS TO FRANCO AND GASTON FOR THEYR NEW PRODUCTS

[punisher]

Needle depth can always be changed through the cams on the machines or buy adjusting the tube a little bit
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[punisher]

Just like you would when setting up any tattoo machine.

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[No Iron Machines]

i know about that, but is not the same, the original CHEYENNE GIRP make adjust the depp of the needle son the way, just turn the grip, that was the good point of that stupid expencive grip,

[fkirons]

i know about that, but is not the same, the original CHEYENNE GIRP make adjust the depp of the needle son the way, just turn the grip, that was the good point of that stupid expencive grip,

You simply release your tube vise and move your grip forward backwards. Let's not get too lazy for the sake of technology. This has been working perfectly for years with any tube!

Yes it is convenient to "click click" to adjust needle depth but a simple twist of your vice screw can achieve the same.


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