Ink climbing up the needle bar...

Hmm, I have found sometimes more bands help, I use barber dts black ones and they're tense as hell. Mike says just use the single o ring he provides, most people swear by it, seems to be just me having problems!

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Originally Posted by wildboy

I had the same issue with my new Rapier II today... The first half an hour everything was fine no ink spray no ink creeping up the tube. After a short break everything was different the ink sprayed a lot and I couldnt continue without fixing the problem I was doing linework still. I tried to bend the needle more and more the needle bar itself and on the needle head no matter what I did nothing helped... But then I tightend the rubber band so much that I had to raise the volts from 8.2 to 8.9 and everything was fine after that. Im using very strong rubber bands

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Maybe the bands had gotten stretched after a bit which allowed less tension.Also I have noticed on rotary machines to keep the needles and tips clean n wet and free from paper towel lent and built up ink between the needles,this will help alot with this issue to.

Also check to make sure the bearings and pin are ok and setted correctly

Set it up normally and slap a big dollop of vaseline and / or a needle runner somewhere near the middle of the needle bar and you should be golden, my Dragonfly used to do the same thing but only with certain inks and it'd fly everywhere once it hit the cam...

use to happen to me all the time with my dragonfly. i use eternal ink. eternal makes a product called "keep it wet". pour your ink and put 2 drops of this on top. it'll keep it from drying out, but thins it just a little. once i started this, the ink creep stopped.

I have that problem CONSTANTLY w/ only one machine, my Bizarre V2. My co-worker has one and has never had a problem w/ it. ??? I've tried everything too.

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Originally Posted by PAWNJOB

I have that problem CONSTANTLY w/ only one machine, my Bizarre V2. My co-worker has one and has never had a problem w/ it. ??? I've tried everything too.

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Try his needles(have him do his needle/bar bend), tubes & ink brands on yours to see if its the brands you use doing it.Also I would check to see how his motor/piston etc are lined up as compared to yours-maybe something is out of alignment.

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Originally Posted by slicksteel

Try his needles(have him do his needle/bar bend), tubes & ink brands on yours to see if its the brands you use doing it.Also I would check to see how his motor/piston etc are lined up as compared to yours-maybe something is out of alignment.

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Good advice,,,,

It's only happened to me once and that was with my bizarre v2, I emailed stigma about it and 10 minutes later a very nice chap from Germany phoned the shop to talk me through stripping the machine and cleaning it properly, he then told me he thought the problem was too much bend on the needle bar making it ride the top of the tube, I've sinced changed wher I bend the bar to just at the solder a slight bend down and then again one finger space back an it's never happened since

May sound crazy but I put a&d on the needle bar after it happened once