Just got my German Evolution. pics w/ my mods

Super stoked today just got it in. It was much smaller then I was expecting which was a pleasant surprise. So far I added a RCA hookup. Dremaled the needle holding screw so I wouldn't have to cut the ends of my needles. I also switched out the thumbscrew and the needle holding screw end cap with metal ones I had from other machines. I'll post reviews as soon as I get a chance to use it. My fiancee grabbed it from me and she's tattooing herself I might have to buy another one now hahah.




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kinda looks like the doorknob from Alice in wonderland now :D

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Glad you got it ok Jeph. Hope you like it!

let me know what you think.. ill be placing an order shortly.. might make a couple mods of my own

I did a similar RCA mod. Its kind of a rock in a hard place on that one. My wire is funky but the rca Is flush. You wire is flush but the rca is funky. This machine needs a serious over haul. I can't believe they actually put it out like this. Sucks cause its a great machine in terms of application.
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Originally Posted by spoonertattoos

This machine needs a serious over haul. I can't believe they actually put it out like this.

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What do you think needs seriously overhauling?

I still haven't gotten a chance to use it but it's a pretty dope looking machine. figure it's the first model and things can always be changed and upgraded as the company grows. personally I like the simplicity. from what I gathered cosmetically and messing with it so far. it does need to be made more practical, I don't see everyone who buys one dremaling down the screw and cutting the loops off needles is not a solution. I like the way the bishop and neotat use a clip maybe work along those lines. they should be equipped with rca. Also it would be nice if all the parts were the aluminum or some sorta light weight metal.

The main thing is cutting off the eye loop is wack. They need to just cut the slit for us and maybe make the screw a little larger in diameter . The second thing is that no RCA is a deal breaker for most of us. I got this machine in a trade but would have never considered it because it has no RCA. Its a great machine for tattoos but I hardly use it cause its such a pain in the ass to set up.

I've used mine every day for the past 6 months and don't have a problem with cutting the loop off. I did cut one a slit into one of mine, but found taking the nut off completely more of a pain the cutting the loop off. We will contact the builder and see what we can do, and I will definitely look into the RCA issue.

The main thing is that these machines are super simple and sell at a decent pricepoint. The more upgrades, the higher the cost of production (I would imagine) and so a higher price for the final product. The evolutions retail at half the price of a neo tat and a third of the price of a stigma! We could talk to the builder about producing a "deluxe" model maybe. I'll see what we can do.

Id pay any extra 25 bucks for them to add an rca (3 dollars for them im sure) . Upgrades are obviously a need on this. I mean mine came with a ziptie. How budget is that?

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We could talk to the builder about producing a "deluxe" model maybe. I'll see what we can do.

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Deakon, that is exactly what should be done. So, what exactly should we ask for? (A) clipcord and RCA connection at the back of the motor. (B) The threaded armature nipple-slotted ,so you can thread the loop through,longer ,so you don't have to completely take the nut off,and slightly thicker simply for strength (C) basic aesthetics, i.e, a better thumb screw and maybe some addonising to the frame.

This is what needs to be done,if anyone can think of anything else please add to this post so Deakon can proceed.

I dont own one yet but until these these things get done i will not buy it(and I do want one)The nipple area is a major design flaw and should have not made it in production that way. Also on the upgrade you could have a metal thumbscrew with a teflon ball press fit in the end so it don't mare your tubes.

All the other items such as color,rca,fancy thumb screws etc could be considered up grades to make it look nicer & be more sturdy.

1.So I would say fix the nipple area on all of them.
2.Offer a bit higher priced model with all the bells and whistles(thumbscrew anodizing,rca,motor cover etc.

instead of slotting the armature, if they just lengthened the frame a bit, you could reverse the block so the armature nipple (screw) would be to the back of the block and a regular needle bar would fit...

P.S. I have one and its my favourite machine..I'm customizing mine now and its almost ready to post pictures of

OR..they could remake the delrin block with a piece that extends into the slot on the back of the frame... (i did a crude photoshop pictures of what I mean)

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I like the idea with the extended block as you could use hard or soft gromments to get a bit of give if you wanted-would not be much tooling involved also you could keep the short compact body.

I want to see one run, some one should put up a short video. It looks crazy

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I want to see one run, some one should put up a short video. It looks crazy

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http://youtu.be/JLcJaJR917I

Really like the idea of extending the block too, but need to source some sort of clip for the needlebar a la neotat/bishop.

I was thinking the same thing. you could put the needle bar clip where the old armature screw was...

so just slot the old holder and extended the block with the new solid pin.

As much as i like the machine i was disappointed to see the motor is chinese. :(

fatcashdaddy Can I see yours on a side view so I can see your mod? I'm coming to NY in Nov. Maybe we can link up and you can mod mine too? Id love to use it more but that needle threading this is such a hassle. Plus Id love to meet ya in person and see your workshop!

For Spooner's benefit I thaught I'd repost some pics of the mods I made to mine. These pics show the advantage of the "slot".....
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...taries0034.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...taries0035.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...taries0036.jpg

Finally I dealt with the clipcord and some basic aesthetics...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...lution0027.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...lution0028.jpg

Any good Spooner?

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fatcashdaddy Can I see yours on a side view so I can see your mod? I'm coming to NY in Nov. Maybe we can link up and you can mod mine too? Id love to use it more but that needle threading this is such a hassle. Plus Id love to meet ya in person and see your workshop!

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hey,
I didn't do that mod to my machine. it was just a photoshopped picture of a regular machine to show what the mod would look like. I'm looking for a plastics manufacturer by me now to see how much it would cost to make that modded block

and ofcourse your welcome to come by when you get back to NY. I'd like to meet you as well...

[QUOTE=fatcashdaddy;17632]hey,
I didn't do that mod to my machine. it was just a photoshopped picture of a regular machine to show what the mod would look like. I'm looking for a plastics manufacturer by me now to see how much it would cost to make that modded block

If you do come up with a different block please keep us updated to how it works out. You could get the best of both worlds having the threaded slot and a standard armature nipple on the block extension.

Ive started to use this as my regular liner as there is zero play in it since the needle is clamped down yet the machine does have some give.

Now that Ive gotten into it, its actually not that big of a deal to cut the loop off. I can see how taking the screw all the way off might be a pain .

I'm no machine builder, but if they ever do an upgraded version I would for sure pick on up.

thanks for all the pics guys.

Where did you guys get the evolution machine from? Can you post a link?

Ask and ye shall receive..http://rotary.oyla13.de/cgi-bin/hpm_homepage.cgi...Or pm Deakon on here, he used to stock them, and was pretty cheap..

Used to be able to buy it at http://www.therotaryportal.com/ but the site is not working at the moment so you can buy it directly from the maker of the machine in Germany:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROTARY-Tatto...ht_3286wt_1396

Having problems with the site at the moment, but shoot me a pm I've got some in stock.

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Ive started to use this as my regular liner as there is zero play in it since the needle is clamped down yet the machine does have some give.

Now that Ive gotten into it, its actually not that big of a deal to cut the loop off. I can see how taking the screw all the way off might be a pain .

I'm no machine builder, but if they ever do an upgraded version I would for sure pick on up.

thanks for all the pics guys.

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Once you are used to it, it only takes a moment to setup. I use mine for bold lining with big loose groupings, puts a lovely line in.

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hey,
I didn't do that mod to my machine. it was just a photoshopped picture of a regular machine to show what the mod would look like. I'm looking for a plastics manufacturer by me now to see how much it would cost to make that modded block

and ofcourse your welcome to come by when you get back to NY. I'd like to meet you as well...

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Nothing like being late to post but I would be down to make a new slide for that machine based on the photoshop rendering, I have a garage full of Delrin.. Catch is, I would need to borrow one of those machines for a week or so to get it done.. I would also be willing to make a bolt on RCA box for it too.. Looks like fun, I'll have to buy one of those machines just to tinker with mods someday soon..

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Nothing like being late to post but I would be down to make a new slide for that machine based on the photoshop rendering, I have a garage full of Delrin.. Catch is, I would need to borrow one of those machines for a week or so to get it done.. I would also be willing to make a bolt on RCA box for it too.. Looks like fun, I'll have to buy one of those machines just to tinker with mods someday soon..

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Mines sits on a shelf, check my review for pics...I will send it over to you, let you play about with it, do the mods. After you are finished I could do a review on it.I'm on the other side of the Pond, but, if you don't get offers from closer, I'm in.Here is another pic of it broken down.Phttp://forum.ink-trails.com/uploads/...9253_thumb.jpg

Thanks , I appreciate the responses. I will be in touch Deakon thank you.