stigma hyper V2

[adamfromessex]

sorry dude, unclear on what you mean

[Tkocevar1]

it looks like both of them and with the needle tensioner

[adamfromessex]

cool thanks dude- does any one have a hyper v2 and a bizarre? i'm looking at compare the 2 on performance- i over looked the hyper as an option, and the revision is obviously now an option

[Tkocevar1]

my buddy loves his hyper he does all his bng and color with it ive never personally used one..im sure its just as awesome as anything else out

[adamfromessex]

brill-cheers

[tugg]

I have both . hyper is a swashplate design and non adjustable stroke apart from the give but hits fairly soft on its hardest setting and the bizarrev2 is linear with interchangable excenters so yo can change the stroke . bizarrev2 is pretty similar to the ls dragonfly imo.
I may be parting with my bizarre soon only because I have other machines similar and want to try other things

[tugg]

in my opinion stigmas design and build quality are second to none.

[adamfromessex]

brilliant cheers

[Sage Oz]

The biggest difference to the dragonfly and the hyper to me is weight, dragonfly is way lighter. Both perform excellent at both BnG and color. Hyper has more give, but consistantly smooth give because its a swash-drive, overall both are well adjustable. The dragonfly has a more sculpted flow feel, organic really and impeccable craftsmanship, the hyper is on par with quality but seems more stout and has a beefy industrial frame, but because of its compactness it is still nimble. It's really a toss up, I'd be happy with either

[tugg]

The biggest difference to the dragonfly and the hyper to me is weight, dragonfly is way lighter. Both perform excellent at both BnG and color. Hyper has more give, but consistantly smooth give because its a swash-drive, overall both both are well adjustable. The dragonfly has a more sculpted flow feel, organic really and impeccable craftsmanship, the hyper is on par with quality but seems more stout and has a beefy industrial frame, but because of its compactness it is still nimble. It's really a toss up, I'd be happy with either

thats great sage but I think Adam was after a comparison with the 2 stigmas but I also agree with what you say