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    Machine Builder I build Tattoo Machines jesoner79's Avatar
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    i dont know if its just me but it seems as if my "give" does not work as well as everyone is saying i do like the machine and it colors great real solid and good looking machine but i was really expecting it to hit with more control when i use my adjustment knob even at its softest it still hits real hard which is fine but i bought the machine cause i was expecting to be able to make it hit soft or hard am i the only one who has this problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesoner79 View Post
    i dont know if its just me but it seems as if my "give" does not work as well as everyone is saying i do like the machine and it colors great real solid and good looking machine but i was really expecting it to hit with more control when i use my adjustment knob even at its softest it still hits real hard which is fine but i bought the machine cause i was expecting to be able to make it hit soft or hard am i the only one who has this problem
    mine hits real hard too jimmee im still trying to get the hang of it,my vivace has no give but feels softer in the skin,maybee cuz the mabuchi runs slower than that little maxon in the spectra im not sure, but i think its a matter of spending more time w them we'll c, but i do like them they are cool little machines.oh and ive been coloring w mine at about 8.2 on my critical w about 1-1/2 to 2 turns backed out that seems to be the sweet spot so far.hope it gets better for you bro.by the way that greywash set i got from u kicks ass, thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesoner79 View Post
    i dont know if its just me but it seems as if my "give" does not work as well as everyone is saying i do like the machine and it colors great real solid and good looking machine but i was really expecting it to hit with more control when i use my adjustment knob even at its softest it still hits real hard which is fine but i bought the machine cause i was expecting to be able to make it hit soft or hard am i the only one who has this problem
    Hey bro the give system works well, we probably oversaw something with your machine. Please check your PM. we'll take care of this asap.
    For Customer service please contact Kayleigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesoner79 View Post
    i dont know if its just me but it seems as if my "give" does not work as well as everyone is saying i do like the machine and it colors great real solid and good looking machine but i was really expecting it to hit with more control when i use my adjustment knob even at its softest it still hits real hard which is fine but i bought the machine cause i was expecting to be able to make it hit soft or hard am i the only one who has this problem

    I for one love the give system on this machine! It's probably at least in part due to the fact that it was just exactly what I was looking for, a give system that goes all the way from absolutely no give to a fair amount of give without all the slack. By slack I mean that some give systems have too light of a hit to where there's not really any resistance at all through much of the stroke w/ an abrupt transition to the point where you've picked up all the slack and there's no give left at all.

    The Halo still feels solid even when set up w/ some give from the instant you touch the tips of the needles to the skin to the point of applying enough pressure to use up the give, a real clean and even sweep. There’s always enough resistance to feel how much pressure you’re applying though. Too much give can feel imprecise to me, but that’s neither here nor there. I’d agree w/ you Jesoner, the Halo even w/ the give let out a good deal still has a pretty stiff hit. It’s really not adjustable all the way from no-give to super soft. Like I said it’s perfect for me, but it’s not nearly as soft as some others.

    Couple things I’m sure you’ve probably thought of but, what stroke length are you using? A shorter stroke really takes something off the hit w/ these machines. Two, you can really let that knob out a good deal, did you try backing it way off? And last, please let us know if Gaston resolves the issue for you and you change your opinion.

    Best of Luck
    Last edited by PAWNJOB; 09-22-2012 at 12:44 PM.

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