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    by the way...thanks for the info....i appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkink View Post
    Neo-tat are they hard hitting?
    nope, the neo tats are not very hard hitting, its all depends on how u run your machine, i run them at 8.5 volts for my black and grey and they seem to be smoothest! also, of all the rotary machines i have, neotat runs the smoothese and most silent, even if u use higher volts on color packing. its a flawless machine to me.

    and to ur question about rotary works, they only have a Facebook page, but its all good. it is very easy to order the rotary works, and also ive benn using the RW as my liner almost daily. it runs at very very low volts. (2.8-3.5volts ) on my eikon Power supply.

    also if u want a short stroke smooth machine with adjustable 'give' , please look also at the red short stroke dragon fly. thats a killer machine too. but at that pricepoint, hahaha.. its best u decide for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkink View Post
    thanks where can i find Rotary Works?
    http://www.facebook.com/rotary.works

    Ray from Neotat is away at the permanent cosmetics convention this week(end) so if he is slow to emails thats why. Dale is Very quick to reply on facebook, he's not always on the forum.


    Quote Originally Posted by darkink View Post
    they are cheap.. lol they do a good all around job.
    4 of each stroke and I have 2 other employees and they barrow and not return them.
    Actually how I do it is…. I using 4 ---1.5 strokes and 4---2.mm strokes
    A kid I trained that works for me I supply his machines... so he is using 4 of them,
    So that’s 12 lol not sure why I have the other 4 lol. They are 1mm stroke... Don’t bother with that stroke it’s a joke.
    At this point they are almost Disposable machines ha!

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    I thought neos were hard hitting is why I don’t own one. So thank you very much for answering.
    Would try the dragon fly but not at that price.
    What stroke do u find the best on the neo? I’m thinking short foe me. Seeing black and gray is what I want it for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    http://www.facebook.com/rotary.works

    Ray from Neotat is away at the permanent cosmetics convention this week(end) so if he is slow to emails thats why. Dale is Very quick to reply on facebook, he's not always on the forum.




    At this point they are almost Disposable machines ha!


    I bought it as a joke. Then discovered they are a good cheap option for a 10 minute tattoo. I work at 2 stations in my shop so good to have as a fast back up at each station and I also train apprentices on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkink View Post
    I thought neos were hard hitting is why I don’t own one. So thank you very much for answering.
    Would try the dragon fly but not at that price.
    What stroke do u find the best on the neo? I’m thinking short foe me. Seeing black and gray is what I want it for?
    I've used all of the neotat machines for black and grey. At the same voltage, 8.5, you may find that the long stroke is like using a very slow machine, and the short stroke is like using a fast machine. How quickly do you like to move your hand? Some people like the short stroke for quick undershading, some like it for soft portrait style work. Nick Chaboya uses long stroke for everything. I hear that he will just move his tubes further down towards the needle tips (to mimic a short stroke).

    Since you are already used to short stroke machines, you probably will not have any 'snagging' issues that first-timers to shorter stroke rotaries have. You can lower your voltage on a short stroke machine to slow it down a little bit, but if you don't want a fast machine, try the mid stroke neotat.

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    Thanks I’m used to the 1.5 stroke but like the 2 mm.. not sure on stroke lengths on the neo but the mid might be for me.
    I tattoo fast. For black and gray

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    I was on the neo site. The work done by Ryan Hadley is what I’m looking for. Wonder what stroke?

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    my youtube video may explain how i work...


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    My coworker likes the mid stroke. He tattoos with pretty quick hand motions. He sets it at 10v and gets a nice balance of dark blacks and nice washes. With a shorter stroke, you'd probably use it at lower volts. A friend of mine uses short stroke for everything - color work AND black and grey. The mid might give you nice versatility of working slow or a little quicker, but if you want really fast, the short stroke would be the best bet...or you could get both? lol

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