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    Quote Originally Posted by fkirons View Post
    if the motor has a an Electronic Speed Control its noticeable. and you need the room in the machine for the circuit even if the circuit is attached to the motor (like some of the high end Maxons for ex). If you have just two terminals then most likely doesn't have ESC.
    Take a look at some Helicopter and car racing motors.
    not always, look at the motors on computer fans there esc is built inside and you cant see it from outside, there are few things that i havnt took apart lol

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    looks real huge thou even thou its only 3.4 oz. but nevertheless, it looks so futuristic that i wanna get my hands to try on

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    The machine sounds interesting , but I think if I got one I'd void my warranty by taking a dremel to it: cme.jpg

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    Since i first starting designing the Centri it has transformed alot, the reason behind its looks and size has purpose aswell. Here are a few images of how the Centri as evolved.0002.jpg0008.jpg0014.jpg0021.jpg0023.jpgthis protoype was 1/2 inch shorter in length. Do to external options soon to be available, i had to stretch it alittle. FKirons, in the video were you see me pressing on the up side of the armature bar, it equally has the same play and give on the down side. If we look at a coil machine not running, where the armature bar is sitting we will call that position A. When a coil is running and where the armature bar makes contact with the coils we will call that position B. So when you tattoo a with coil we all know that position A is excelerating to position B and coming to a dead stop before retracting "Painful entry". Rotary's as we know decelerate from postion A to position B giving a much more smoother entry but could seriously do some damage cause the rotary's A to B position is locked in place. The Centri uses the rotary's deceleration process and the coils exceleration process at the same. This is were it gets hard to explain with out giving up valuable information. Try to imagine this sensation, If you could press up on a classic rotary's armature bar and in doing so its changing the diameter of rotation... It will slighty gain speed and shorten your stroke at the same time it wants by nature to spin at its maximum diameter pushing pressure into your thumb do to centrifugal force... ok i cant give out any more information. I hope you guys can somewhat understand.

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    It's a shame you've had to make it bigger,as I think the aesthetics on this machine look so much better. Here's something that may irritate you-I prefer the clipcord,it certainly would look better at least on this machine ,the RCA plug makes it look as long again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john clark View Post
    not always, look at the motors on computer fans there esc is built inside and you cant see it from outside, there are few things that i havnt took apart lol
    Hahah now I have to take a computer fan apart. Thanks for the knowledge John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberitual View Post
    FKirons, in the video were you see me pressing on the up side of the armature bar, it equally has the same play and give on the down side. If we look at a coil machine not running, where the armature bar is sitting we will call that position A. When a coil is running and where the armature bar makes contact with the coils we will call that position B. So when you tattoo a with coil we all know that position A is excelerating to position B and coming to a dead stop before retracting "Painful entry". Rotary's as we know decelerate from postion A to position B giving a much more smoother entry but could seriously do some damage cause the rotary's A to B position is locked in place. The Centri uses the rotary's deceleration process and the coils exceleration process at the same. This is were it gets hard to explain with out giving up valuable information. Try to imagine this sensation, If you could press up on a classic rotary's armature bar and in doing so its changing the diameter of rotation... It will slighty gain speed and shorten your stroke at the same time it wants by nature to spin at its maximum diameter pushing pressure into your thumb do to centrifugal force... ok i cant give out any more information. I hope you guys can somewhat understand.
    I think this could cause even more trauma because for what I understood you said, the deceleration will result in needle hanging out longer therefore ripping skin with as you move your hands.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, I think the faster the slap is the least painful should be. Imagine piecing your ear slowly or doing it fast. Usually fast skin penetration is least painful that delayed penetration....and this just open my creative mind to come up with some examples not proper for this site lol.

    I may be wrong.
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    Thanks! It's not as big as it looks, then!

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    Being a piercer and tattooer(by far not the best out there!)It is a balance of both speed and power-to fast hurts like hell-causes micro explosion in tissue,major cell trauma,to slow cause hangup and tearing instead of a cleancut/pierce/poke.

    examples: guy tattoos or pierce himshelf with a needle n thread and a guy pierce his lip both go very slow.(piercing takes a 30min to push threw and tattoos is doing slow pokes/dots with a push/pluck method,both will not hurt till the next day but will have major damage in healing etc.
    Guy tattoos with a machine runst at 12 volts that machine is set to run on 7.5 and does everything superfast. Then he pierces lip with a superfast hard puncture.Both are going to hurt very bad with bad tears/cell blow outs.
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    im not saying it doesnt hurt, just hurts less. None of my tattoo have torn the skin. The Centri tattoos like a champ! Its all good, nobody will understand untill there client says so. Who ever gets there hands on one try it on a client for a couple min, then go back to your original machine and let them tell you what they think. I didnt build this machine to reduce pain. I built this machine to prove it can be done! Meaning a rotary with complete give. By accident i ended up with a machine that causes less trauma to the skin. Heals faster too aslong as you know what your doing. I wonder how many knock offs there will be... I know some people are going to break it open to see how it was done, I wish i could see there face's when they realize how simple it was and that its been right there in front of them the whole time. Simplicity is amazing. I installed a 30 second detonator too, so look fast and then run like hell!!! lol

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